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Posted 11 February 2007 - 05:07 PM

Obviously I have no experience in this matter, but here is my opinion:

People are going to do whatever "vices" they have anyway. Why not have a safe place for all involved and tax it? Have the taxes going to either a program for childrens education or to feed the hungry, or for housing for the less fortunate. Same thing with illeagal drugs, a safe place and taxing it. It is just a thought. I would rather see the women taken care of long term and have a safe enviroment to "work" in.

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 05:27 PM

QUOTE(mookiebones @ Feb 11 2007, 05:07 PM) View Post

Obviously I have no experience in this matter, but here is my opinion:

People are going to do whatever "vices" they have anyway. Why not have a safe place for all involved and tax it? Have the taxes going to either a program for childrens education or to feed the hungry, or for housing for the less fortunate. Same thing with illeagal drugs, a safe place and taxing it. It is just a thought. I would rather see the women taken care of long term and have a safe enviroment to "work" in.

-Adrienne


Now there is an open minded and resonable response.

Anyone else?

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 06:02 PM

[quote name='David' date='Feb 8 2007, 11:08 AM' post='3228']
I just read that prostitution is legal in Peru. For those of you living in Peru, what effect does this have on a city/country?
Does it reduce the risk/amount of STD's? On a whole is AIDS more/less prevalent?

I often wonder, it sure doesn't seem that outlawing it stops it from taking place.

The only place I'm aware of in the US that it is legal is Nevada. The girls there must take get tested for STD's/AIDS weeekly. And condoms are a must.
Is it the same in Peru or is it more of a self regulated thing?

(I promise, this comes strictly from curiosity)

Thanks for responding,

David
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Hi David

I just spoke to my brother in Peru (he is a lawyer) and he confirmed what you said, it is legal. He also told me that many "girls" would prefer to work in a house than to be on the streets because it has more benefits and it is safer (he mentioned that many girls from the Ukraine have come to Peru to work since competition isn't very fierce ) Now you can offer all the benefits that the Peruvian law is supposed to offer (health care, vacation time, retirement plan...you said you would treat them nicely remember?) Usually a girl would cash 30% of the "visit" leaving you with..obviously the 70%, she also gets a percentage (small one) for drinks that she helps to sell. Now about licenses, he said it is much harder to get one in places such as Miraflores, San Isidro (it is simply because rich people don't want whore houses close to their homes, although they like to go to them haha laugh.gif ) You have other districts/options where it would be easier to get a license (middle class districts) but you know in Peru everything is possible if you know the right people and are willing to wait. Now I don't know how he knows all of this hahaha I just know that the guy knows a lot (he is the intellectual in the family)...or maybe all of this is just common knowledge?...condoms are a must...

In case you need a good, responsible lawyer that won't kill you with his fees...my brother is the right one (advertisement here hahaha)
Take care
Clara

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 07:53 PM

Clara,

Thanks for the great informative response.

Keep in mind It was just a question that grew its own legs. Members of the forum got the ball rolling I just asked a simple question.

I had never entertained the thought of a whore house on the block until you guys put the seed in the ground.

That said, I'll be posting an ad for a recruitment manager. Top pay full benifits etc.etc.

Thanks again for the information.

Just another idea to add to my list.

David

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Posted 23 February 2007 - 08:25 AM

Strangely enough, there are a very limited number of permitted brothels in Lima, Las Cucardas and El Trocadero are probably the most popular and both are extremely seedy and in very rough neighborhoods in or near central Lima. So wipe out any vision you have of a large mansion and well dressed madam that entertains guests around a grand piano while they sip whiskey and select the girl from those that parade around the room. The brothels are dimly lit, industrial-looking buildings with an interior lay-out to maximize efficiency. There are long hallways and several doors, leading to small and dirty rooms, where the available girls stand and wait to catch the eye of a passing customer. The entrance and service fees are extremely cheap and these places are all about volume. The girls carry health cards that certify they are disease free. The cards are updated monthly and any potential customer can request to view it.

Now, having said that, the overwhelming majority of working girls either work independently or through an escort agency, both working under the radar and therefore have no health card or any other benefit. The indys range from s/ 10 streetwalkers to s/ 600 lounge lizards. There are several websites here in Lima where you can peruse the upper end of available independents and agency escort girls. Also, look in the El Comercio classifieds under the heading "relax" and you'll see several pages of indys ads.

So, to answer your original questions:

does it reduce crime - I don't think so, as the overwhelming majority of prostitutes don't work in legal establishments
does it reduce the risk/amount of STDs - all working girls, indys and brothel-based, use condoms for any intimate contact, so I don't think the law helps in reducing STDs


Now, if you want to open a business, I'd probably go for an escort agency that targets foreign business men. You can charge more and don't need facilities as the girls visit their clients in the client hotel room. You'll need a web-designer and girls of course. Since I am neither of those, I guess I'm out of luck.

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Posted 02 March 2007 - 03:37 AM

QUOTE(Jav @ Feb 23 2007, 08:25 AM) View Post
Strangely enough, there are a very limited number of permitted brothels in Lima, Las Cucardas and El Trocadero are probably the most popular and both are extremely seedy and in very rough neighborhoods in or near central Lima. So wipe out any vision you have of a large mansion and well dressed madam that entertains guests around a grand piano while they sip whiskey and select the girl from those that parade around the room. The brothels are dimly lit, industrial-looking buildings with an interior lay-out to maximize efficiency. There are long hallways and several doors, leading to small and dirty rooms, where the available girls stand and wait to catch the eye of a passing customer. The entrance and service fees are extremely cheap and these places are all about volume. The girls carry health cards that certify they are disease free. The cards are updated monthly and any potential customer can request to view it.

Now, having said that, the overwhelming majority of working girls either work independently or through an escort agency, both working under the radar and therefore have no health card or any other benefit. The indys range from s/ 10 streetwalkers to s/ 600 lounge lizards. There are several websites here in Lima where you can peruse the upper end of available independents and agency escort girls. Also, look in the El Comercio classifieds under the heading "relax" and you'll see several pages of indys ads.

So, to answer your original questions:

does it reduce crime - I don't think so, as the overwhelming majority of prostitutes don't work in legal establishments
does it reduce the risk/amount of STDs - all working girls, indys and brothel-based, use condoms for any intimate contact, so I don't think the law helps in reducing STDs
Now, if you want to open a business, I'd probably go for an escort agency that targets foreign business men. You can charge more and don't need facilities as the girls visit their clients in the client hotel room. You'll need a web-designer and girls of course. Since I am neither of those, I guess I'm out of luck.


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Posted 02 March 2007 - 03:39 AM

QUOTE(Jav @ Feb 23 2007, 08:25 AM) View Post
Strangely enough, there are a very limited number of permitted brothels in Lima, Las Cucardas and El Trocadero are probably the most popular and both are extremely seedy and in very rough neighborhoods in or near central Lima. So wipe out any vision you have of a large mansion and well dressed madam that entertains guests around a grand piano while they sip whiskey and select the girl from those that parade around the room. The brothels are dimly lit, industrial-looking buildings with an interior lay-out to maximize efficiency. There are long hallways and several doors, leading to small and dirty rooms, where the available girls stand and wait to catch the eye of a passing customer. The entrance and service fees are extremely cheap and these places are all about volume. The girls carry health cards that certify they are disease free. The cards are updated monthly and any potential customer can request to view it.

Now, having said that, the overwhelming majority of working girls either work independently or through an escort agency, both working under the radar and therefore have no health card or any other benefit. The indys range from s/ 10 streetwalkers to s/ 600 lounge lizards. There are several websites here in Lima where you can peruse the upper end of available independents and agency escort girls. Also, look in the El Comercio classifieds under the heading "relax" and you'll see several pages of indys ads.

So, to answer your original questions:

does it reduce crime - I don't think so, as the overwhelming majority of prostitutes don't work in legal establishments
does it reduce the risk/amount of STDs - all working girls, indys and brothel-based, use condoms for any intimate contact, so I don't think the law helps in reducing STDs
Now, if you want to open a business, I'd probably go for an escort agency that targets foreign business men. You can charge more and don't need facilities as the girls visit their clients in the client hotel room. You'll need a web-designer and girls of course. Since I am neither of those, I guess I'm out of luck.


Thanks for the full service reply! However, I don't think I'll be opening brothel any time soon. Sometimes I just like to think out loud.

David l

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Posted 02 March 2007 - 07:41 AM

QUOTE(David @ Mar 2 2007, 03:39 AM) View Post
... I don't think I'll be opening brothel any time soon.

I know, I was just messing with you - trying to stay within the spirit of the replies of others




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